"You were fighting the Destroyer as much as I was. Lirael's, I don't know, she's even harder to understand than Ava. Ava just uses references to modern things and has all these odd expectations. Lirael's Abhorsen-in-Waiting. I miss Kait,"

Sam respects Lirael, but she intimidates him, since he doesn't think she thinks that much of him.